Chael Sonnen talks Jon Jones USADA suspension

Some things to think about:

The most likely scenario for someone who failed a drug test is that they knowingly took the drugs themselves.
Other possibilities exist but that one HAS to be entertained first, to discount that possibility is very very stupid.

Given that possibility, the next most probable thing to occur is for the cheater to defend themselves and lie. It is by FAR the most appealing outcome to the cheating athlete, they look like they did nothing wrong, no punishment if people choose to believe them.

Given Jons past record of shady behaviour, its more than likely he would try this.

Then theres the psychological evidence, and the fact that he chooses his words carefully to make a fool of himself, like saying he would never admit to taking steroids rather than say clearly that he hasnt nor will take steroids.

If you entertain the idea that Jon knowingly took PED's and got high in the 10 minute break before his testimony, it explains everything, the embarrassing slips like "never admit to steroids" calling the commission "dude" 3-4 times, basically lying his face off to paint himself in an innocent light, the speed at which he answers a question about the danger of an opponent on steroids and how he consciously thinks and delays his answer when asked the same thing about himself.

If you cant see straight through Jon Jones you are too much of a fan of his, like most of the commission admitted at the end!!

Its really not healthy for Jon Jones psychological well being to have people buy his bullshit and say they believe him, it means the superego within is suffocated and the immature narcissist gets full control and keeps making bad decisions with his life.

Its really as clear as day. The hearing could be repackaged as a comedy show and it would make millions, all it needs is a proper psychologist doing the commentary. The whole thing is priceless, especially the random commissioner talking about Steven A Smith and how he cant hear a word anyone is saying, reminded me of an old episode of The Practice with an old judge who everyone laughs at always tells everyone about a musician who made it big after turning their life around. sad old broken record when it comes to that truth be told.

One day you will think about this Jon Jones saga Chael and you will think how in the hell did I not see straight through Jon Jones kindergarten front facade, its so dumb all the smart people fall for it.

Emperors new clothes. All the smart folk try to entertain the idea of the clothes. All the dumb folk see straight through it. Because you rely on intelligence to be smart but you arent intelligent when you are being smart, smart is a focus of intellignet, only good to a point but everything real outside that point it is completely ignorant to and hence a loss of quality. entirely. but also held up by real quality. those who dont waste time being smartasses can see it. those that do see it can be smart and intelligent at the same time – wise. JON JONES NEEDS TO WISE UP.

You want to help him? call him out on his bullshit, all we saw in that hearing was his ego. behind that is a great man, the same potential in every man, worthless until realised then worth everything because everything works. as long as the ego is in control we get lies and bullshit from Jon Jones.

Every time he activated his thinking process his ego took control of it.

The questions he answered without having to think and manipulate his answers to suit his ego? "do you think it is dangerous for a fighter to fight someone using PED's?" he answered "absolutely yes" without a moments hesitation, it was a genuine truthful answer without Jons ego warping it, thats because it didnt implicate him specifically and also it is a subject he is clearly very excited about, meaning he knows a great deal about and also has first hand experience in doing.

Why does he not answer a lot of the other questions just like this? because there is a lot to be careful about, if he spoke honestly as himself he would be in fucking deep trouble.

Hell he threw his management team under the bus said they forged his signature and lied. All to protect his circus of lies.
The document in question was regarding the supplements he checked which was more than he had admitted, thats because he didnt admit a lot of things he took, just like he said he would NEVER ADMIT to taking steroids.

Why would he admit to all his supplements if he said he would never admit to taking steroids?
Shouldnt someone under oath that says they would never admit to cheating be committing some kind of injustice to the system right then and there? Its like swearing to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth and then saying you would never be honest….

No supplements were ever going to come back positive because he took the drug directly, he was just fishing for a tainted supplement to take the fall for him, thankfully it didnt turn out that way.

Someone like Jon is protected by the UFC, he is just too dumb to keep it under wraps. He will get less than 2 years because the law takes money in envelopes to reduce sentences. Discretion.
The commission even worried about ending Jons career if they gave him too long a sentence.. even though he just kicked the shit out of someone 11 years older than him for arguably the toughest championship in mixed martial arts. If DC can fight at 40, theres no way in hell even 6 years out would stop Jon Jones coming back as good as he has ever been.
PEDs are a magic thing for athletes getting older like DC.

Point of all this is, mental health. We know PEDs are about, we dont hate those who can be genuine about it. We know psychology, we can spot a liar.

Those who dont or are too starstruck will happily say they believe him despite all the calling cards that say otherwise, they will happily tell you about the emperors clothes and how great they are.
And they will make fools of others who believe them and start a whole wave of stupidity that eventually comes crashing back to earth. Like the Ronda Rousey greatest athlete in history hype train. Conman McGregors boxing adventures, and Jon Jones being a healthy role model and selfless hero. All have to be blown out of proportion to hide the dull reality to them. Despite other fighters deserving of the attention who could back up their hype.

Chael is the exception, all the WWF style trash talk and self hype Chael backed it all up and gave respect afterwards to back it all up as a human being. Nothing out of proportion when you are a genuine person not afraid to call it as it is.

Jon should own up about his drug use, write a book etc get rich from it. Then make it obvious how DC is on drugs too help him own up and stop the ridiculous company man cross 12 year old fake persona he puts on, somehow building a friendship between the two fighters. Those two are as bad as each other I tell you. But DC knows a lot more about getting around drug tests and isnt as stupid as Jon is.

just my 4 dollars 93 cents

30 Comments

Hey Chael, you are right most of the times, and you seem like a smart person, but stop fix fights with Bellator, or you will be remembered as a joke like Bob Sapp.

kittyissu

Chael Sonnen shows he's got brains here. Very rational, intelligent and even philosophical.

ChrischrosBelgium

If he get's 2 years, when can he be back? He's allready suspended for almost a year, no? So 1 year to go?

ChrischrosBelgium

so whats your excuse chael ?

Jaime Gonzalez

Science doesn't lie.

mrpotatoguy1

What a strange dichotomy!? LOL Can't science also prove intent?

Alexis Mamadou

Chael talking more shit. This is the guy who told the story of how JJ hid under the octagon for like 10 hours to hide from the doping agents. Now he's saying we should go to science but it still doesn't prove anything and that he didn't see any holes in Jon's testimony. Are you deaf & blind, Chael? His "testimony" was an absolute shitshow, he was barely making sense at times and didn't even try to come up with a reasonable alibi. He even ratted on his own team for allegedly "forging" his signature on the USADA contract. JJ is a drugs cheat just like Lance Armstrong was.

Wits' End

UFC and MMA is full steam ahead Jon Jones and his nonsense would just take away from it all He deserves suspension

Sean XxX

first and foremost, chael sonnen has failed multiple tests for PEDs. secondly OBVIOUSLY WE DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THE FIGHTERS WORD. IF I ROB A BANK ARE YOU GONNA BELIEVE THE CAMERA FOOTAGE AND WITNESSES OR MY WORD. ?????????????????????????????? Ive literally been trying to find out whether this dumb fuck got suspended yet. Hate to see such a good fighter have to be put down, however hes a fucking dick. plain and simple, hes a six foot stack of shit. A deplorable human being. therefore i kind of like it. hes so dumb its astonishing.

F5xToRefresh

Some things to think about:

The most likely scenario for someone who failed a drug test is that they knowingly took the drugs themselves.
Other possibilities exist but that one HAS to be entertained first, to discount that possibility is very very stupid.

Given that possibility, the next most probable thing to occur is for the cheater to defend themselves and lie. It is by FAR the most appealing outcome to the cheating athlete, they look like they did nothing wrong, no punishment if people choose to believe them.

Given Jons past record of shady behaviour, its more than likely he would try this.

Then theres the psychological evidence, and the fact that he chooses his words carefully to make a fool of himself, like saying he would never admit to taking steroids rather than say clearly that he hasnt nor will take steroids.

If you entertain the idea that Jon knowingly took PED's and got high in the 10 minute break before his testimony, it explains everything, the embarrassing slips like "never admit to steroids" calling the commission "dude" 3-4 times, basically lying his face off to paint himself in an innocent light, the speed at which he answers a question about the danger of an opponent on steroids and how he consciously thinks and delays his answer when asked the same thing about himself.

If you cant see straight through Jon Jones you are too much of a fan of his, like most of the commission admitted at the end!!

Its really not healthy for Jon Jones psychological well being to have people buy his bullshit and say they believe him, it means the superego within is suffocated and the immature narcissist gets full control and keeps making bad decisions with his life.

Its really as clear as day. The hearing could be repackaged as a comedy show and it would make millions, all it needs is a proper psychologist doing the commentary. The whole thing is priceless, especially the random commissioner talking about Steven A Smith and how he cant hear a word anyone is saying, reminded me of an old episode of The Practice with an old judge who everyone laughs at always tells everyone about a musician who made it big after turning their life around. sad old broken record when it comes to that truth be told.

One day you will think about this Jon Jones saga Chael and you will think how in the hell did I not see straight through Jon Jones kindergarten front facade, its so dumb all the smart people fall for it.

Emperors new clothes. All the smart folk try to entertain the idea of the clothes. All the dumb folk see straight through it. Because you rely on intelligence to be smart but you arent intelligent when you are being smart, smart is a focus of intellignet, only good to a point but everything real outside that point it is completely ignorant to and hence a loss of quality. entirely. but also held up by real quality. those who dont waste time being smartasses can see it. those that do see it can be smart and intelligent at the same time – wise. JON JONES NEEDS TO WISE UP.

You want to help him? call him out on his bullshit, all we saw in that hearing was his ego. behind that is a great man, the same potential in every man, worthless until realised then worth everything because everything works. as long as the ego is in control we get lies and bullshit from Jon Jones.

Every time he activated his thinking process his ego took control of it.

The questions he answered without having to think and manipulate his answers to suit his ego? "do you think it is dangerous for a fighter to fight someone using PED's?" he answered "absolutely yes" without a moments hesitation, it was a genuine truthful answer without Jons ego warping it, thats because it didnt implicate him specifically and also it is a subject he is clearly very excited about, meaning he knows a great deal about and also has first hand experience in doing.

Why does he not answer a lot of the other questions just like this? because there is a lot to be careful about, if he spoke honestly as himself he would be in fucking deep trouble.

Hell he threw his management team under the bus said they forged his signature and lied. All to protect his circus of lies.
The document in question was regarding the supplements he checked which was more than he had admitted, thats because he didnt admit a lot of things he took, just like he said he would NEVER ADMIT to taking steroids.

Why would he admit to all his supplements if he said he would never admit to taking steroids?
Shouldnt someone under oath that says they would never admit to cheating be committing some kind of injustice to the system right then and there? Its like swearing to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth and then saying you would never be honest….

No supplements were ever going to come back positive because he took the drug directly, he was just fishing for a tainted supplement to take the fall for him, thankfully it didnt turn out that way.

Someone like Jon is protected by the UFC, he is just too dumb to keep it under wraps. He will get less than 2 years because the law takes money in envelopes to reduce sentences. Discretion.
The commission even worried about ending Jons career if they gave him too long a sentence.. even though he just kicked the shit out of someone 11 years older than him for arguably the toughest championship in mixed martial arts. If DC can fight at 40, theres no way in hell even 6 years out would stop Jon Jones coming back as good as he has ever been.
PEDs are a magic thing for athletes getting older like DC.

Point of all this is, mental health. We know PEDs are about, we dont hate those who can be genuine about it. We know psychology, we can spot a liar.

Those who dont or are too starstruck will happily say they believe him despite all the calling cards that say otherwise, they will happily tell you about the emperors clothes and how great they are.
And they will make fools of others who believe them and start a whole wave of stupidity that eventually comes crashing back to earth. Like the Ronda Rousey greatest athlete in history hype train. Conman McGregors boxing adventures, and Jon Jones being a healthy role model and selfless hero. All have to be blown out of proportion to hide the dull reality to them. Despite other fighters deserving of the attention who could back up their hype.

Chael is the exception, all the WWF style trash talk and self hype Chael backed it all up and gave respect afterwards to back it all up as a human being. Nothing out of proportion when you are a genuine person not afraid to call it as it is.

Jon should own up about his drug use, write a book etc get rich from it. Then make it obvious how DC is on drugs too help him own up and stop the ridiculous company man cross 12 year old fake persona he puts on, somehow building a friendship between the two fighters. Those two are as bad as each other I tell you. But DC knows a lot more about getting around drug tests and isnt as stupid as Jon is.

just my 4 dollars 93 cents

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